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posted by [personal profile] alt_lupin at 10:30pm on 07/05/2013
I visited Sam Fawcett this morning. He let me in, poured me a cup of tea, and said he wanted to give me a list with some information my organisation might find useful. He hadn't wanted to write it out until I arrived. I can rather see why. It's a list of ten people in the camps.

1. Clifford Langworth, Exeter Camp.
2. Manish Gupta, Lincoln Camp.
3. Johannes Smith, Harlowe Camp.

All three are former members of the SAS, which I gather was sort of an elite military force the muggles had.

4. Joshua Tumber, Manchester Camp. He was apparently a combat medic in the British military.

5. Roger Harris, Porlock Camp. Was a trauma surgeon -- again, I gather a variety of muggle healer.

6. Meredith Crumley, Gloucestershire Camp. Meredith was a chemist, in the old days -- the sort that makes muggle medicines. Mostly they need facilities that are no longer available in the Protectorate but Meredith apparently had a hobby in herbalism and has made an extended project over the last decade of coming up with substitutions, some of which, Sam claimed, are very nearly potions in their own right.

7. Irene Young, Chipstead Camp. Despite her name, she's old, not young. Apparently she ran a fire watch station in the 1940s in London and is treated as the de facto leader by a large number of muggles. Sam didn't think we'd want to pull her out but thought we could probably make use of her where she is.

8. Odell Copeland, Llanfyllin Camp. Despite the not-particularly-Welsh name he's another influential one -- apparently he was a player on a local muggle sports team.

9. Margery Birdwhistle, Doncaster Camp. She was a Member of Parliament, before. Apparently she'd recently lost her seat, that's why she escaped notice. The other muggles in her camp apparently call her 'Minister.'

10. Tom Haddington, Sevenoaks Camp. This one's probably the most astonishing: he's a muggleborn wizard who's passed as a muggle all this time. He's nearly sixty years old. According to Sam -- I'm not sure how he found all this out -- Tumber got a Hogwarts letter all those years ago, but his parents insisted he go to a respectable school and not go gallivanting off messing about with magic, and so he never learnt to use his magic and never owned a wand. Sam spotted him because apparently Haddington did at some point teach himself quite a bit of runework and has been using it, discreetly, to keep vermin and illness at bay.

So. Sam handed over the list, took the letter from Sarah, and told me he's got quite a bit more where these came from but that if we want them, we'll have to let him in to our organisation. I told him we'd think about it.
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alt_hermione: Hermione is ready for anything (prepared)
posted by [personal profile] alt_hermione at 12:41pm on 08/05/2013
Mr Lupin, what would the Crimson Company do with those names if he gave the list to them instead of us?

I mean, there's no more DogStar really, or if there is that witch who ran them has been lying really low, hasn't she, but how do we know that the Company are more like DogStar? Because we carry poison, too, in case we're captured.

Anyway, I think Sam's probably not all that clever for a Ravenclaw. He ought to have shown you the list but then not handed it over. Who's to say you couldn't take that list and through them, find all the people you need? And besides that, if the Crimson Company aren't interested then he might as well give us the names and go on passing along any other secrets he thinks we ought to know.

We could give him something to tell them now and then, couldn't we? Something that might require a lot more people (are they bigger? They make it sound like they are but that could be lies), or something that we really want to make sure goes off properly so we'd tell them to stay out of it, maybe.

That might make him feel like he's more of an Order operative, maybe.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_lupin at 01:25am on 09/05/2013
From what Sam said, I think he has suggested at least the SAS members to the Crimson Company in the past, and they scoffed at the idea that muggles could be useful.

As for finding more people through these -- he brought that up himself, actually. He said that Clifford Langworth would be able to tell us the names of other former soldiers at his own camp, but he wouldn't have been able to tell us about the people at Lincoln and Harlowe.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_severus at 02:05pm on 08/05/2013
A trauma surgeon specialises in the repair of critical and emergent injury, rather than routine matters that may be scheduled in advance. 'Muggle healer' is an adequate summation; however, they are not the sort to treat patients' regular ailments.

Drs Harris and Tumber, and Dr Crumley, are likely best left in place to treat their fellows. Members of the SAS, on the other hand, could prove strategically or tactically useful; their training is exhaustive.

I agree with Miss Granger's suggestion that Mr Fawcett be told he is a part of our organisation without being given detail, or indeed any information that would make us vulnerable.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_alice at 12:58am on 09/05/2013
Hm. He doesn't know entirely how we work. For all he knows, we could function in insular cells like Dogstar does.

We can certainly tell him things he could pass along to his other organization that would be of use, and give him objectives to accomplish without having to let him under the Lock or informing him fully about our operation at Moddey Dhoo just yet. And we could give him access to one of our safehouses and a way to reach us in an emergency, as well as a method of regular communication.

We'd risk angering him if he were to prove capable of full membership later and he found we were keeping things from him, but this might be a good solution in the short term given the security risks. And were he to be eligible for full membership, one would hope that part of being eligible would include understanding why we'd keep such things from him to begin with.

Remus, what do you think? Would that satisfy him?
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posted by [personal profile] alt_lupin at 01:29am on 09/05/2013
I'm not sure. As I said to Severus, Sam seemed to be expecting some sort of magical oath or initiation of some kind.

I suppose we could give him a button.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_lupin at 01:28am on 09/05/2013
I'm not precisely sure how the Crimson Company initiates its members, but he clearly expected some sort of magical oath. Simply telling him, 'right, you're a member' may not pass scrutiny.

We can try, mind you.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_severus at 07:33pm on 09/05/2013
If we are in need of a suitably dramatic 'oath' to swear, I am certain one of us could come up with something that would satisfy.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_bill at 12:11am on 09/05/2013
Nick and I spent the day discretely trying to confirm his information. It all checks out, or at least we can confirm that there are people at those locations with those names--and given that, I'm inclined to take his word for the special talents/circumstances he describes in each case.

I wonder if Davidson knows any of the first three personally, or by repute, since he was SAS, too. Kingsley, could you check?

I'm salivating even more now at the idea of adding him, but I'm still equally as wary, for all the reasons Frank and Charlie mentioned. Bugger.

I don't know. Remus, I suppose it's difficult to tell, but do you get any sense about whether he's bluffing with the no more unless I'm allowed to join business?
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posted by [personal profile] alt_kingsley at 12:12am on 09/05/2013
Sure, I'll check.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_frank at 01:00am on 09/05/2013
looks like it'd be worth our while to pay them all a visit. tonks and me could go.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_kingsley at 03:48am on 09/05/2013
Sounds good. Just send me a patronus with rendezvous information for the day you have in mind.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_nymphadora at 11:31pm on 09/05/2013
I could go tomorrow, Frank. If you can.

I was just going to say to Remus that we've got some overlap between Fawcett's list and Ridley's--there are people in some of the same camps, I mean. We've got Mitchell Alden at Harlow and Lorena Elliott at Manchester camp. We had a rocky start with Elliott, but they're both solid with us now.

I see he's got someone at Doncaster, too, and we've been meaning to get there. Maybe we should pop whatsisname... Moxon up the top of our list? Ridley had him in the wrong camp. Or he'd just moved jobs when we went looking for him, but we've tracked him down (or Nick did, anywiz). Polonius Moxon, I think. Frank, that's right, isn't it?
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posted by [personal profile] alt_frank at 01:00am on 10/05/2013
right. Moxon. he works for the camps, doesn't he?

sounds like a plan.

not sure how well Moxon would get on with a muggle, though. especially if he's pureblooded.

should we tell them about each other?
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posted by [personal profile] alt_nymphadora at 04:25am on 10/05/2013
No, you're right. He's Dogstar and pure or near-it and works in camp admin, so he's not likely to think much of muggles. We'll have wait and see, but I shouldn't think we'd tell him straight off. Or them, either. But we should, maybe try to see what we can learn about this 'Minister', Mrs Birdwhistle. Maybe speak to her if we can, but at least we can see if we can find out a quiet bit about her.
alt_lupin: (me again)
posted by [personal profile] alt_lupin at 01:30am on 09/05/2013
Charlie's the one who told us his nickname was 'mule.'

I don't think he's bluffing, no.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_bill at 03:47am on 09/05/2013
We can possibly offer one of our loosely associated analyst network positions in the meantime, along with the designation of being our Crimsom Company liaison. The analysts don't know all the secrets, so they're not on the Lock or taking the full oath. But they do keep the Order secret and they are key, because they help us by dealing with information--which is, after all, what he is offering with us. But the arm's length position keeps us all safer.
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posted by [personal profile] alt_alice at 02:17am on 10/05/2013
Perhaps a modified version of that, yes.

What we might do is tell him about the analysts and their jobs, and that he'd be a step up from that as our link to the Company. Then we could negotiate what his duties would be and what we'd give him in return -- access to the safehouse, a button for communication (Remus, perhaps he can report direct to you?), information passed to him that could be helpful for the Company, regular visits with his family, and whatever protection we can provide, and have him take a partial oath.

And later, he might be eligible for the inner circle, as it were.

Although don't tell him that bit, Remus, or he might insist on holding off until he's immediately given top access.

Do you think that would work?
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posted by [personal profile] alt_lupin at 03:44am on 10/05/2013
It's worth a try. I'll visit him tomorrow, if I can, and see what he says.

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